Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 21:40:05 +0100
From: jermq at hrc.westminster.ac dot uk (Jeremy Quinn)
Subject: Editing List files
I want to write a CGI for WebSTAR, to enable people to subscribe etc., to
my Lists served by AutoShare.
Has anybody done this already?
Would it be safe for my CGI application to search and edit the List files
directly?
I could write a CGI that formats and sends eMail to AutoShare, but
AutoShare, WebSTAR and the CGI will have to run on the same machine, and
I've heard this will cause it to hang.
Hey! Maybe I could just get my CGI to make a message file and copy it into
the "Filed Mail" folder? What is the format of those files?
Thanks Jeremy
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jermq at hrc.wmin.ac dot uk : HyperMedia Research Centre
http://www.hrc.wmin.ac.uk/
http://www.wmin.ac.uk/media/jermq/
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Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 17:10:56 -0400
From: wsuarez at digprod dot com
Subject: Re: Editing List files
Jeremy,
There is a wonderful FORMS/CGI front end out there already for AutoShare. It's
written by Jeffrey Jones and you can get at it using the following URL:
http://199.199.102.133/lsdocs.html
If you want to see it in action, you can try the URL on our server at:
http://www.digprod.com/DPI-Listserv.html
Regards,
Bill Suarez
DPI - Home of the Leader in Network Printing
http://www.digprod.com/
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Subject: Editing List files
From: AUTOSHARE-talk at hsforum dot com at Internet
Date: 10/9/95 9:40 PM
I want to write a CGI for WebSTAR, to enable people to subscribe etc., to
my Lists served by AutoShare.
Has anybody done this already?
Would it be safe for my CGI application to search and edit the List files
directly?
I could write a CGI that formats and sends eMail to AutoShare, but
AutoShare, WebSTAR and the CGI will have to run on the same machine, and
I've heard this will cause it to hang.
Hey! Maybe I could just get my CGI to make a message file and copy it into
the "Filed Mail" folder? What is the format of those files?
Thanks Jeremy
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jermq at hrc.wmin.ac dot uk : HyperMedia Research Centre
http://www.hrc.wmin.ac.uk/
http://www.wmin.ac.uk/media/jermq/
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Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 14:39:59 -0800
From: listmaster at hsforum dot com (Mark M. Levinson)
Subject: Re: ListServ cgi
>I want to write a CGI for WebSTAR, to enable people to subscribe etc., to
>my Lists served by AutoShare.
>
>Has anybody done this already?
Yes!! Jeremy Thomas Jones has written a wonderful AppleScript called
ListServ.cgi. I just found it yesterday... I already have a demo of this
running on THE HEART SURGERY FORUM[tm]. It runs with WebSTAR 1.2.1 and
AppleScript 1.1. Even the response html files can be customized, as you
will see from my own use of this cgi. You will need the Tokenize and
DeCode URL OSAXS, all of which can be found at:
http://www.int287.k12.mn.us/lsdocs.html
This Web page includes links to the instructions, FAQs, and OSAXs.
Check this out before you hard code your own. Check out my use of this
for the OpenHeart-L list at URL:
http://www.hsforum.com/HeartSurgery/OpenHeart-LQuickForm.html
One of the immediate advantages of this approach is to prevent people from
submitting commands with bad characters, typos, placed in the wrong part of
the email, etc. AutoShare sometimes can't handle these offbeat constructs
for command messages, but ListServ cgi keeps the users within bounds for
submitting command messages, and makes it easy for them too.
Only drawback...the user must have a forms capable browser. But Mosaic,
Netscape, AOL are forms capable.
Very nice CGI form Jerermy Thomas Jones!!!
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Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 11:56:07 +0100
From: jermq at hrc.westminster.ac dot uk (Jeremy Quinn)
Subject: Re: ListServ cgi
At 23:39 9/10/95, Mark M. Levinson wrote:
>Yes!! Jeremy Thomas Jones has written a wonderful AppleScript called
>ListServ.cgi. I just found it yesterday...
Thanks for the info
I'm not surprised someone else has done it already!!
Jeremy
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jermq at hrc.wmin.ac dot uk : HyperMedia Research Centre
http://www.hrc.wmin.ac.uk/
http://www.wmin.ac.uk/media/jermq/
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Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 20:39:18 -0600
From: Jaeson.M.Engle at dronf dot org (Jaeson Engle)
Subject: not caught
Hmm, well, I thought that the whole sub/unsub issue had been resolved. I have
commands set for the body of the message for my lists and recently had someone
send an empty message to a list with a subject of unsibscribe. Any ideas?
--
Jaeson M. Engle
Speaker of the Good Word
Acme Technologies
Date: 11 Oct 1995 07:41:42 -0500
From: "Charters, Lawrence" <lcharters at ocean.nos.noaa dot gov>
Subject: RE: not caught
>send an empty message to a list with a subject of unsibscribe. Any ideas?
Improved education? On-line spell checker?
-- Lawrence
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 07:47:56 -0400
From: farokh at telmar dot com (Farokh Irani)
Subject: Re: not caught
>Hmm, well, I thought that the whole sub/unsub issue had been resolved. I have
>commands set for the body of the message for my lists and recently had someone
>send an empty message to a list with a subject of unsibscribe. Any ideas?
At that point you just gotta give up :)
I had a guy send mail to listserve, and listserver, and then when he wanted
to actually send a message, he sent it to suzuki-1 (one not L) :). I did
finally get him straight...
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<farokh at telmar dot com>
My WWW server is at http://macserver.telmar.com/
See Camellia and friends at http://macserver.telmar.com/pages/dogpage.html
Suzuki Cavalcade and VX800 rider; list owner for suzuki-l.
Subscribe to suzuki-l at macserver.telmar dot com:
Send mail to listserv at macserver.telmar dot com and "sub suzuki-l" in the body
(without the quotes).
Or check out http://macserver.telmar.com/pages/listserv.html
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 12:42:17 -0600
From: Jaeson.M.Engle at dronf dot org (Jaeson Engle)
Subject: Re: not caught
At 7.47 AM 10.11.95, Farokh Irani spake thus:
>>Hmm, well, I thought that the whole sub/unsub issue had been resolved. I have
>>commands set for the body of the message for my lists and recently had someone
>>send an empty message to a list with a subject of unsibscribe. Any ideas?
Sorry guys, I meant UNSUBSCRIBE. I typoed, he didn't. I thought this issue had
been fixed though and that even though commands were in the body of the message
that the subject would be checked for these occurrances.
Jaeson
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 13:20:37 +0000
From: m-smith at dircon.co dot uk (Marc Smith)
Subject: Mail Loop Problem
Hello everyone,
I hope this list is still active.
I ran into a little trouble this morning when I logged into our remote
server with Timbuktu. Actually, the machine had hung. I restarted it using
a power cycler. I could login with Timbuktu just as all the various server
applications were starting up - WebSTAR, AIMS, FTPd, Butler.....until bang,
it hit Autoshare. Autoshare would come up and I could see its blank window
and then the machine would freeze. Upon several restarts I was able to quit
Autoshare before it hung up the machine.
I removed the prefs files for Autoshare and setup the preferences again. I
ran it and nothing froze. Problem is that when commands are sent to
autoshare now, I get a mail loop warning. Here is what is sent back to me:
>The following message could not be sent to 'autoshare at www.antiquarian dot com'
>at >host 'www.antiquarian.com' because a mail loop exists.
>
> ----Unsent message follows----
>
>Content-Type: message/rfc822
>
>Received: from (204.96.116.220) by antiquarian.com
> with SMTP (Apple Internet Mail Server 1.0); Fri, 13 Oct 1995 10:01:48 +0000
>From: Marc Smith <m-smith at dircon.co dot uk>
>To: autoshare at www.antiquarian dot com
>Subject:
>Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 10:01:48 +0000
>Message-ID: <1398543988-138234 at antiquarian dot com>
>
>sub bible-talk Marc Smith
I removed all the files from the Incoming Mail and Filed Mail folders -
there were three in the Filed Mail folder. Still get the mail loop.
What am I missing? Where is the loop and how do I get rid of it?
Thanks for any suggestions.
Marc
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Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 18:08:40 -0700
From: simon at higgs dot com (Simon Higgs)
Subject: Re: Mail Loop Problem
At 6:20 AM 10/13/95, Marc Smith wrote:
>I ran into a little trouble this morning when I logged into our remote
>server with Timbuktu. Actually, the machine had hung. I restarted it using
>a power cycler. I could login with Timbuktu just as all the various server
>applications were starting up - WebSTAR, AIMS, FTPd, Butler.....until bang,
>it hit Autoshare. Autoshare would come up and I could see its blank window
>and then the machine would freeze. Upon several restarts I was able to quit
>Autoshare before it hung up the machine.
>
You probably have a file in the Filed Mail folder that is crashing
AutoShare. Everytime AutoShare hangs here, I *ALWAYS* (100%) find a message
in the Filed Mail folder with a bad first line in the body that looks like
this:
Mail*Crash RE: [Subject Line]
Edit out the above line using a text editor or Eudora and it processes
fine. I've told Mikael about this (since Feb or March) everytime it
happened. It's a real pain.
It's one of the Starnine mail gateways (Microsoft Mail or QuickMail) I
think that inserts the extra subject line.
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Date: Sun, 15 Oct 1995 09:59:34 +0000
From: m-smith at dircon.co dot uk (Marc Smith)
Subject: Re: Mail Loop Problems
>Edit out the above line using a text editor or Eudora and it processes
>fine. I've told Mikael about this (since Feb or March) everytime it
>happened. It's a real pain.
>
>It's one of the Starnine mail gateways (Microsoft Mail or QuickMail) I
>think that inserts the extra subject line.
>
Thanks for the tip. We are happy campers again. I took the alias out of the
Startup Items folder and launch Autoshare by hand now. I can only
administer our machine remotely and a crash at startup just aint good news.
Marc
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Date: Mon, 16 Oct 1995 11:21:46 +0200
From: artelse at media-gn dot nl (J.Arthur Elsenaar)
Subject: auto-reply
Hello,
as my subject hints at, I would like to have an auto-reply send when mail
is comming in for an unknown user (the account in AIMS).
The normal auto-reply setup doesn't work cause AutoShare can't match the
unknown user to a document in the docs folder.
Is there a workaround for this?
Any ideas welcome.
gr.=C6
___________________________________________________________________
J.Arthur Elsenaar. Tel+Fax: +31-50-136467
artelse at media-gn dot nl / minerva at knoware dot nl
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From: jerry at pwa.acusd dot edu (Jerry Stratton)
Subject: Re: auto-reply
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 1995 07:40:57 -0700 (PDT)
>The normal auto-reply setup doesn't work cause AutoShare can't match the
>unknown user to a document in the docs folder.
>Is there a workaround for this?
>Any ideas welcome.
Well, it isn't AutoShare, but my FireShare scripts will do this for you.
See http://nspace.cts.com/html/NetLife/NSpace/FireShare/FireShare.html
or, for the full 400k distribution, e-mail fireshare at nspace.cts dot com, any
subject, any body.
Jerry
jerry at acusd dot edu (Finger or Reply for PGP Public Key)
http://nspace.cts.com/
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a new 'Legion of Super Cool Guys'. Their arch enemies would be
anyone/thing written or drawn by Rob Liefield. Also, they would
all worship Cerebus and work closely with the Fish Police."
-- Jon Oakes
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 1995 10:50:21 -0400
From: rushing at mail.eli.uakron dot edu (Tim Rushing)
Subject: Re: auto-reply
>Hello,
>
>as my subject hints at, I would like to have an auto-reply send when mail
>is comming in for an unknown user (the account in AIMS).
>
>The normal auto-reply setup doesn't work cause AutoShare can't match the
>unknown user to a document in the docs folder.
>
>Is there a workaround for this?
>
>Any ideas welcome.
>
Set up AIMS so that the account forwards to another account, say
nothome. Then set up nothome as an AutoShare auto-reply account that sends
whatever message you want sent.
---Tim Rushing
From: gary at mdenet.mde.state.mi dot us (Gary J LaPointe)
Subject: Re: auto-reply
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 1995 12:06:45 -0500
>as my subject hints at, I would like to have an auto-reply send when mail
>is comming in for an unknown user (the account in AIMS).
>Is there a workaround for this?
>Any ideas welcome.
I have not tried this but....
Have auto-forward to "no-one"
>The normal auto-reply setup doesn't work cause AutoShare can't match the
>unknown user to a document in the docs folder.
The user "no-one" is now known so that you could set an auto-reply for it
as a matter of fact I think I'm gonna go try this right now!!!
Gary
Gary J LaPointe
gary at mdenet.mde.state.mi dot us
Michigan Department of Education
Office of Grants and Technology
(517) 373-4234 fax: (517) 373-3325
http://web.cal.msu.edu/gary/
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 1995 14:07:11 -0700
From: simon at higgs dot com (Simon Higgs)
Subject: Mail*Link SMTP-QM 3.0.2 mail crashes listserv
The following mail is crashing AutoShare when Mail*Link SMTP-QM 3.0.2 is
used as the mailer. The reason, I believe, is because of the insertion of
the Subject line and OFFICE MEMO line at the beginning of the message body.
Every piece of mail coming in this form from this mailer crashes Autoshare
on our server.
What can be done to fix this?
Received: from by with SMTP (PP);
Fri, 20 Oct 1995 14:58:03 -0500
Message-Id: <n1397917781 dot 24478@ matter> >
Date: 20 Oct 1995 15:11:12 -0400
From:
Subject: None
To: <listserv at higgs dot com>
X-Mailer: Mail*Link SMTP-QM 3.0.2
Subject: Time: 3:03
PM
OFFICE MEMO None Date:
10/20/95
SUB NetCloak
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Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 13:36:40 -0500
From: rushing at mail.eli.uakron dot edu (Tim Rushing)
Subject: Bizarre AutoShare bounce
I just had the following strange bounce from an AutoShare list. Here is
the header:
> ----- Transcript of session follows -----
>550 ppp00r.cibnor42.conacyt.mx (tcp)... 550 Host unknown
>554 <rbowers%cibnor.conacyt.mx at ppp00r.cibnor42.conacyt dot mx>... 550 Host unknown
>(Authoritative answer from name server)
>
> ----- Unsent message follows -----
>Received: from mail.eli.uakron.edu by dax.cc.uakron.edu (5.65/Ultrix4.3)
> id AA13255; Tue, 31 Oct 1995 09:32:35 -0500
>Received: from cibnor.cibnor.conacyt.mx (148.207.14.1) by mail.eli.uakron.edu
> with SMTP (Apple Internet Mail Server 1.1b1); Tue, 31 Oct 1995 09:32:00 -0500
>Received: from ppp00r.cibnor42.conacyt.mx by cibnor.cibnor.conacyt.mx
> id aa23435; 31 Oct 95 7:28 MST
>X-Sender: rbowers at correos.cibnor.conacyt dot mx
>X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2
>Mime-Version: 1.0
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 07:27:19 -0700
>To: The Tesl Hotel <teslhotel at mail.eli.uakron dot edu>
>Reply-To: The Tesl Hotel <teslhotel at mail.eli.uakron dot edu>
>Errors-To: postmaster at mail.eli.uakron dot edu
>Precedence: bulk
>From: Roy Bowers <rbowers at cibnor.conacyt dot mx>
>Subject: The first part of my chapter
>Message-Id: <9510310728.aa23435 at cibnor.cibnor.conacyt dot mx>
>
>************************************************************
>ATTENTION PLEASE
>Your message did NOT get posted
>You cannot post to a list, unless you are a subscriber
>The listserv address is autoshare at mail.eli.uakron dot edu
>************************************************************
rbowers at cibnor.conacyt dot mx, the address on the From line is a member of
TESLHOTEL. AutoShare, however, bounced the mail. You'll notice that when
autoshare tried to return the mail, the address it used was not the From
address, was not the X-Sender address, but appears to have been built from
the first Received tag. Anybody have any ideas?
Tim Rushing
University of Akron
From: jon at macenroe.cs.wits.ac dot za (John Ostrowick)
Subject: AUTOSHARE vs macjordomo
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 13:30:42 +0200
anyone out there who knows macjordomo and can tell me if there are any
especial advantages to autoshare?
--------------
John Ostrowick
Computer Science Department, University of the Witwatersrand
jon at cs.wits.ac.za or jon@macenroe.cs.wits.ac.za or jon at is dot co dot za
http://macenroe.cs.wits.ac.za/macenroe/www/aboutme.html
(011) 716-3783
SH1012
Subject: Re: AUTOSHARE vs macjordomo
At 6:30 AM 11/10/95, John Ostrowick wrote:
>anyone out there who knows macjordomo and can tell me if there are any
>especial advantages to autoshare?
I never managed to get Macjordomo to work -- I was crashing everytime it
connected to AIMS.
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Date: Sat, 11 Nov 1995 03:24:02 -0600
From: jls4 at po.cwru dot edu (Jonathan Shaw)
Subject: Re: AUTOSHARE vs macjordomo
Personally I've found Macjordomo to work great for me. I don't like the
long pause during its startup, but the program seems a lot easier to set up
and operate than AutoShare did. And it's free, which is cool.
-Jonathan {;-)
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From: cthulhu at necronomi dot com (Clifford H. Low)
Subject: Re: AUTOSHARE vs macjordomo
Date: 11 Nov 1995 04:46:55 GMT
> anyone out there who knows macjordomo and can tell me if there are any
> especial advantages to autoshare?
I've switched from Autoshare to Macjordomo.
1) I had mysterious crashes on both Autoshare and Macjordomo. Macjordomo's
current revision solved most of it's crashes on my machine, so I was
encouraged to move speedily.
2) I run a webserver on the same machine, and Autoshare freezes other things
up while it processes mail (which can be 40 seconds on a big list, like
mine). Macjordomo doesn't do this.
3) Nicer interface.
4) Messages don't get refused if their subject lines start with a command
word, like "Get a load of this!"- even if it's set to accept commands from
the body only.
5) You don't have to run it on the same machine- so if it does crash, it
doesn't take your mailserver with it, corrupting all the mail being
processed.
6) Macjordomo is three times easier to configure on AIMS, as it requires only
one minimally configured account per elist, as opposed to Autoshare's three.
-CHL
+----------Clifford Hartleigh Low-----------+------------------------+
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Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 22:32:00 +0000
From: marc at guardian.co dot uk (Marc Lueck)
Subject: Startup Problems
I am a new member of this list and I am looking for the answer to a
question about AutoShare (or possibly AIMS - I don't know where the problem
lies)
I have had AutoShare running successfully as an auto-responder
(go2-help at guardian.co dot uk) for some weeks now. I have had AIMS (MailShare)
running for over 8 months without a problem. I was recently asked if I
could start a listserv, and decided that AutoShare was perfect for it. I
followed the directions, both in the AutoShare docs and in Jason Snell's
Quickstart. Here is where I got to (and spent a good 3 hours at as well)
The folders seem to conform to what AutoShare excpects; I have an Auto
folder, in which are Listserv, Archive, Docs, Filed Mail and Filters. I
have the empty files "wankerserv" and "buggerserv" in the Listserv folder,
and the folders "wankerserv" and "buggerserv" in the Archive folder. In
AIMS I have the users wankerserv, buggerserv, both Saving As Files to the
Filed Mail folder, and the users wankerserv.d, wankerserv.m, buggerserv.d
and buggerserv.m, all pointing to files in the Listserv folder with the
proper names (serv.m and serv.d)
In the Misc. prefs, I have a bounce account as
"mailbot@popserver.guardian.co dot uk" which is an account on AIMS. I have
bounce set to "on".
So far so good. I can list, subscribe, query, review...anything and all
the answers seem to be proper.
Here's the problem: now I can contribute, but what happens is that the
message is taken by AS, played about with (it adds to the Current.html and
so forth) , then sent out to "buggerserv.m" This then starts AIMS running
through a nasty loop where it constantly sends the same message over and
over again - the message in the debug reads:
"mailbot@popserver.guardian.co.uk to buggerserv.m@popserver.guardian.co dot uk"
and it cycles until I throw the incoming mail file away.
Anybody have a clue as to what is going on?
My guesses are leading me to believe that the problem is with my AIMS setup
- and so I will send this to someone on that list, but considering the fact
that MOST people on this list are on that list as well, I figure I am well
covered. After all, you can't run AutoShare very well without AIMS
Thanks all for your help...
Marc Lueck
marc at guardian.co dot uk
Date: Thu, 7 Dec 1995 14:13:59 +0000
From: marc at guardian.co dot uk (Marc Lueck)
Subject: Ack
It seems to me that Ack doesn't work at all. I have been trying to get it
to work for over a week with no success. I now understand the dynamic
nature of the .m file (changes with every message processed) and I
would imagine that if ACK is set, then it should include the senders name
in the .m file. It doesn't for me! Any suggestions?
Marc Lueck
marc at guardian.co dot uk
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 96 13:43:12 -0500
From: mcmahon at phepds.DNET.NASA dot GOV (Michael Don McMahon)
Subject: Please help
I am trying to install autoshare on a 9150 internet server I am using
and I cannot even get my list to work. I made a small list and when I sent
mail to the list from one of the accounts on the list, AIMS goes into some
sort of infinite loop where the error log says 'mailing list error -43'
over and over again and the debug window continually says 'moving message
from postmaster at spdsch.phys.lsu.edu to test.m at spdsch.phys dot lsu dot edu'. Can
anyone help me figure out what is going on here?
Michael
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 13:53:26 -0600
From: weidl at digitalprairie dot com (Eric Weidl)
Subject: Anyway to globally SET ACK for subscribers
Hello,
I've just set up an AutoShare/AIMS mailing list and have been relatively
happy with the results. I do have a couple of questions, however.
1) Is there anyway to make acknowledgments the default option for new
subscribers, or for that matter AutoShare? AutoShare is the first mailing
list software I've come across that does not automatically send a copy of
the message to the original poster. Just about every one of the 300+
subscribers to my list want to receive copies of their posts to the list.
I'd rather not ask them all to sent SET ACK messages to AutoShare.
2) Similarly, is there a way to globally set the CONCEAL option for subscribers?
3) I'd like to have custom messages sent to subscribers of each mailing
list I intend to administer. My reading of the documentation indicates that
I should be able to provide this feature by creating specific versions of
each of my command files and then append a period and the name of the list
to the file name. For example, if I have two lists, a-info and b-info, then
I should be able to create two files named 'sub.a-info' and 'sub.b-info'
and then the appropriate one would be returned for sub messages to one of
the two lists. Unfortunately, it doesn't work for me. In testing, I always
receive the default file. Is this a bug or am I doing something wrong?
Eric
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Date: Sun, 4 Feb 1996 16:26:03 -0500
From: wsuarez at digprod dot com (Bill Suarez)
Subject: Re: Anyway to globally SET ACK for subscribers
Eric,
Modify your SUB document to include the appropriate SET commands for ACK and
CONCEAL. That way when a subscription is processed, the commands will be set as
well.
The SUB.listname should work just fine. Make sure that the SUB.listname
documents are in the correct folder based on your configuration.
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Subject: Anyway to globally SET ACK for subscribers
From: autoshare-talk at hsforum dot com at Internet
Date: 1/29/96 1:53 PM
Hello,
I've just set up an AutoShare/AIMS mailing list and have been relatively
happy with the results. I do have a couple of questions, however.
1) Is there anyway to make acknowledgments the default option for new
subscribers, or for that matter AutoShare? AutoShare is the first mailing
list software I've come across that does not automatically send a copy of
the message to the original poster. Just about every one of the 300+
subscribers to my list want to receive copies of their posts to the list.
I'd rather not ask them all to sent SET ACK messages to AutoShare.
2) Similarly, is there a way to globally set the CONCEAL option for subscribers?
3) I'd like to have custom messages sent to subscribers of each mailing
list I intend to administer. My reading of the documentation indicates that
I should be able to provide this feature by creating specific versions of
each of my command files and then append a period and the name of the list
to the file name. For example, if I have two lists, a-info and b-info, then
I should be able to create two files named 'sub.a-info' and 'sub.b-info'
and then the appropriate one would be returned for sub messages to one of
the two lists. Unfortunately, it doesn't work for me. In testing, I always
receive the default file. Is this a bug or am I doing something wrong?
Eric
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Eric Weidl - weidl at digitalprairie dot com <- NEW!
Vice-President, Digital Prairie, Inc. phone://1.708.527.1011
President, AppWare Developers Association phone://1.708.585.4048
Date: Sun, 4 Feb 1996 19:23:00 -0600
From: awd at DDG dot com (Andrew W. Donoho)
Subject: Re: Anyway to globally SET ACK for subscribers
Bill,
You wrote:
>Modify your SUB document to include the appropriate SET commands for ACK and
>CONCEAL. That way when a subscription is processed, the commands will be set as
>well.
Could you provide an example file of how this would look? My copy of the
documentation is less than clear. Do we quote the commands with /= or just
put them in the text?
Andrew
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awd at gslis.utexas dot edu - UT Grad. School of Library and Information Science
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 01:03:35 -0600
From: Don-Strickland at easy dot com (Don W. Strickland)
Subject: AutoShare visible in back?
Folks,
Beleive it or not, I've just now updated listserv at easy dot com
from AutoShare 1.0b7 to 1.0. I seem to have made the switch
ok, but there's a surprise feature that I'd like to override.
If AutoShare isn't the front App, it's debug window
disappears. Can you tell me how to keep it visible?
I suppose a related question is, should AutoShare or AIMS
be the front App. I prefer to keep AIMS in front but want
to see as much of AutoShare as I can.
Thanks,
dws.
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 04:17:43 -0700
From: blee at mis163.bpa.arizona dot edu
Subject: freezing my computer
While I have been enjoying autoshare for a while,
it is still disturbing me.
Whenever authshare distributes a mail from any subscriber to entire subscribers,
I can not do anything but waiting. I have put many server programs but this
is only one which monopolizes cpu usage.
Is there anyone who has noticed the same problem? or any wayaround?
Thanks in advance.
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McClelland Hall 430, Tucson, AZ 85721
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Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 11:35:43 -0600
From: Don-Strickland at easy dot com (Don W. Strickland)
Subject: Re: AutoShare Locking Up
Andrew,
Geez, I home you guys don't run me off, but I gota say. The
ONLY way ListServ at easy dot com can support it's 400+ users is by
sending ALL internet mail to a UNIX based mail-relay machine.
Before I did this, MailShare-L at easy dot com was doing EXACTLY what
you are describing.
It seems to me that as long as the receiving hosts are online
and well behaived, mail flows just fine. But you add a few weak
SMTP destinations to a large list and AIMS will just choke trying
to wait/deliver/wait/deliver/wait. I don't fully understand the
problem, but when you think about the fact that my 400+ member
list is largely people that are setting up their FIRST SMTP/POP
server, you realize there are going to be LOTS of weak servers
on the list at any given time.
I don't know of ANY os that is the best tool for every job
... yet.
dws.
At 9:22 AM 2/22/96, Andrew W. Donoho wrote:
>Folks,
>
> I've just started hosting the Carpe.Diem list for Mac Evangelists
>(over 600 members) and the thing that amazes me the most is how bad the
>connectivity on the internet really is. This connectivity has driven the
>"SMTP Outgoing" spool past 60 MB. The system will sit for minutes and not
>send anything to anybody as it waits for connections to time out. Perhaps,
>AIMS should timeout sooner and get on with mailing to systems that are
>reachable? I am rarely using 20% of my ISDN line.
>
[...]
>
> I am hoping to get some suggestions on what I may try next. Also, I
>hope that Mikael has a fix for the AutoShare crashing.
>
>Andrew
From: james at frutiger.staffs.ac dot uk (James Berriman)
Subject: Re: AutoShare Locking Up
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 00:37:37 +0000
>The system will sit for minutes and not
>send anything to anybody as it waits for connections to time out. Perhaps,
>AIMS should timeout sooner and get on with mailing to systems that are
>reachable? I am rarely using 20% of my ISDN line.
I'd try adjusting the options in the 'sending setup' dialog. Reduce the
timeout and set the 'expire after' time to a small value so that problem
mail is discarded. The other option would be to route mail to all domains
via your isp's server. Or keep an eye out for the problem domains and just
hand those off to the isp. Let their server take some of the strain.
> On top of all that, AutoShare crashes regularly when it gets a
>message that has extraneous leading text in the header.
I seem to recall this coming up on the AutoShare beta list. Wasn't it a
mail gateway inserting the word 'subject' into the first line of the
message?
(:-]) James
Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 09:52:58 -0800 (PST)
From: rehren at wdc dot net (Randall Ehren)
Subject: signing off
i send out all of my apologies, but could someone please tell me how to
sign off of this mailing list?
Randall S. Ehren - Visit my web page at:
http://www.wdc.net/~rehren/
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Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 08:46:43 -0500
From: Stephen Lane <lane at qmac.ithaca dot edu>
Subject: Re: AutoShare Locking Up
At 12:37 AM 2/23/96 +0000, you wrote:
>> On top of all that, AutoShare crashes regularly when it gets a
>>message that has extraneous leading text in the header.
>
>I seem to recall this coming up on the AutoShare beta list. Wasn't it a
>mail gateway inserting the word 'subject' into the first line of the
>message?
There was (I believe it is still there) a bug which crashed autoshare when a
colon was placed in the sub line. Like, sub: fun-l. I don't remember the
other combinations of characters needed to crash it. It has been a long
time.......
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 17:39:27 -0800
From: reader at hsforum dot com (Mark M. Levinson)
Subject: Re: AutoShare and CPU time
>Whenever authshare distributes a mail from any subscriber to entire
>subscribers,
>I can not do anything but waiting. I have put many server programs but this
>is only one which monopolizes cpu usage.
> Is there anyone who has noticed the same problem? or any wayaround?
>Thanks in advance.
>
>--
>Byungtae Lee [(520) 621-4614 Fax: (520) 621-2433]
AutoShare is not usually a CPU hog...but a large output of new SMTP files
will cause AIMS to hog the CPU time. At this juncture, I do not know of
any way to reset AIMS to reduce CPU demand. Below is an email from the
Frontier-talk list describing a software monitor of CPU sharing. This
might help sort out your needs, and point to the offending program...
Hope this helps....
Mark M. Levinson, M.D.
<mark at hsforum dot com>
>Warnings-To: <>
>Sender: owner-frontier-talk at DMC dot COM
>Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 05:14:07 -0500
>MIME-Version: 1.0
>To: frontier-talk at dmc dot com
>From: okyeron at starnews dot com (Steven Noreyko)
>Reply-To: FRONTIER-TALK at DMC dot COM
>Subject: WebStar/Frontier performance ??
>CC: webstar-talk at starnine dot com
>
>Curious things I've noticed tonight.
>
>I picked up a nifty little sharware device called "Monitor" (by Mark
>Alldritt) .
>To quote the RM: "Monitor is a utility for the Macintosh which allows you
>to see the level of activity taking place within your computer."
>
>I ran this little thingy on the active webserver (AISS 6150/66 24MB RAM
>-Webstar (1.2.4), Frontier(4.0b1), Netcloak, Netforms, FMPro 3.0).
>
>The curious thing I noticed was that when WebStar was in the Foreground,
>Frontier would be grabbing about 30% of the CPU cycles, leaving WebStar
>with about 70% (the other CGIs and apps only were doing about 2% or less at
>the time).
>
>When I would bring Frontier to the Foreground, the Frontier CPU time would
>drop to about 5-10% and Webstar would grab the rest (in the 90% range).
>Frontier would jump to about 10-20% when an imagemap was hit (frontier is
>doing the mapserving).
>
>But for the most part, WebStar was getting more CPU cycles when it was in
>the background. Huh??? How is this working?
>
>This seems very strange given everything I have understood about this
>webserver-memory stuff up to this point.
>
>Why should Frontier grab more CPU cycles in the background than it does in
>the Foreground?
>
>Should I base any performance evaluation upon the results of this little
>Monitor utility?
>
>Does the number of CPU cycles given to a specific application (i.e.
>WebStar) determine its speed or performance. (in other words, if webstar
>gets more CPU cycles is it serving up files to users faster??).
>
>Thoughts and anyone's testing information would be greatly appreciated.
>
>-steve
>
>"Random animal parts... now playing nightly... right here in Neurotica...
>So long"
>___________
>Steven Noreyko
>okyeron@starnews dot com
>http://www.starnews.com/okyeron/
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Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 18:14:12 -0800
From: reader at hsforum dot com (Mark M. Levinson)
Subject: Re: AutoShare Locking Up
> On top of all that, AutoShare crashes regularly when it gets a
>message that has extraneous leading text in the header.
[snip...]
> I am hoping to get some suggestions on what I may try next. Also, I
>hope that Mikael has a fix for the AutoShare crashing.
I have not spoken to Mikael since he joined StarNine about 6 months ago.
However, he is aware of the parsing bug in AutoShare. There are several
manifestations of this bug, and AutoShare crashes about 1 in 200 incoming
messages if there are extraneous characters after the command string.
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Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 14:47:15 +0200
From: ronny at netvision.net dot il (Ronny Front)
Subject: I tried to sig off this mailing list
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Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 03:58:51 -0600
From: rosenb10 at pilot.msu dot edu (Mark Rosenebrg)
Subject: multiple mailing lists
I'm having trouble getting multiple mailing lists running, I can sub okay
to teh new lists, but I get the dreaded "No document available" message...
I checked the FAQ, and tried to make sure I had the hosts file and the aims
default server stuff straight - I think I do...
Any other thoughts ?
- Mark
From: swan at neon dot com (Michael Swan)
Subject: Freezes and what's the latest?
Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 15:06:53 -0700
Hi to the AutoShare list,
I haven't heard much from this list recently and
the AutoShare web page (http://docs.kb.bib.dk/AutoShare/)
hasn't been updated recently.
My 1.0 version of AutoShare will freeze my entire
machine on receipt of certain mail. In particular,
mail addressed to a listserver address will begin
to be processed but then hang the machine if in
the body of the mail message is any "extraneous"
text. This may be a well-known bug, but is there
a fix? By the way, hand-editting out the extraneous
text in the body and leaving the message in the
filed mail folder and restarting AutoShare will
cause the message to be processed and all is well.
I can actually provide copies of the mail messages
which can be used to duplicate the problem.
Is there anyone out there?
Michael Swan
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Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 23:58:14 +0200
From: lips at best dot be (Benoit Lips)
Subject: Re: Freezes and what's the latest?
Michael,
I've exactly the same problem with any extra headers or text. I'm still
using autoshare for a while but never run in automatic mode. I launch
autoshare twice a day and check to see if AS hangup. As it's quite
friendly, I force AS to quit when a proble occur, edit the text manually
and reload AS.
I would indeed enjoy a fix for this bug ... but havent found another way
(I'm handling a low traffic 10/15 msgs / day mailing list)
Benoit
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